I read this sincere lament of an Indian patriot. It broke my heart reading it. I saw this posted on many sites and facebook pages and felt it needed a response to put things in perspective. Mr Ribeiro’s article sounds like Hindus suddenly started Breaking Bad due to Modiji.
Mr Ribeiro feels deeply about this issue as I am sure, many other Indian Christians and non Christians also feel like him.
Yes..there is a problem that has been brewing in India for a while and its only going to get worse unless good Christians act. (“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing “- Edmund Burke) . But this problem did not start with Modji getting elected. I would say Modji got many support from people like me who have been traditionally secular which was one of the reason Modji won with an overwhelming majority.
I suspect the problem really started around 20 years ago and amplified after Vajpayeeji was defeated sending the anti Hindu Catholic woman Sonia and her Anti Hindu cabal to power in spite of a very successful Vajpayee term making many Hindus feel like strangers in their own country. The loss of Vajpayee term in spite of his successful term emboldened many Anti Hindu forces in India. When the political left have had total monopoly of power in India,Almost all institutions including the court system is filled with these anti Hindu congress/Sonia sycophants squeezing the life out of Hindus in India. In any case, let me come back to this at a later time. Let me first address Mr Ribeiros concerns.
Quote “Ghar wapsi”, the declaration of Christmas as “Good Governance Day”, the attack on Christian churches and schools in Delhi, all added to a sense of siege that now afflicts these peaceful people.
He laments about Ghar Wapsi. Jews do something similar to “Ghar wapsi”, They too are losing their flock and instead of predating on others, all they are doing is convincing the Jews who have left their faith to come back. They do not predate on Muslims, Hindus, Christians..They talk to their own Jewish people who left Judaism to other faiths and explain to them why they need to support Judaism and the Jewish history to bring them back to the Jewish fold. If one is so convinced they have a right to convert others you have no choice but to concede to the idea of Ghar Wapsi. PERIOD! I have no sympathy for Ribeiro on this front. Or Mr Ribeiro, please support the BJP govt to make it illegal to predate on other religions which eliminate the need for flock stealing from one another. If you want to have it both ways, You Mr Ribeiro are part of the problem.
On the issue of “good governance” day. Whelp! It does sound petty, doesn’t it. You know what I think? I think Indian Christians are wonderful…. for the most part…But at the same time, they are tad spoiled brats. They need to go around a bit to see what “Minorities” are entitled to in other countries. And, its time to ask this question. Why should 98% of the people who are not Christians be forced to celebrate the birth of Jesus in India when they could use that day for something useful for them like..er “Good Governance” day? (this is the kind of Qs that gets asked in the US when “minorities” ask for special dispensation) Why not use a floating holiday for the 2% Christians? Like the Hindus do living in the US for Diwali or the Sikhs or the Muslims for Eid. Come to think of it, Is there a single Christian majority country in the world respecting non Christianity to have a public Holiday? When the Jews have a Menorah or people say Happy Holidays (due to this time period being celebrated by Africans (Quanza) and Jews (Hanukkah) , many people cry “Christian persecution” in the west. Israel, Japan, Turkey and many other countries do not celebrate Christmas any more than all of the Christian majority countries celebrate Hindu holidays, why should India? No one wants to take Christmas away from Christians. It would be cruel to deny the 2% Christian their Christmas Holiday. They are entitled to take their religious holiday and no one has the right to deny that to Christians. This is about why should the other 98% be forced celebrate the birth of Jesus? Hindus consider Jesus the way Christians of the world consider Rama or Krishna. On the other hand, if respect for each others faith calls for a Holiday for all, then its time Christian majority countries start respecting major non Christian religion and have a holiday for Eid, Diwali and so on. There is not a single Christian majority western country in the world that has a public religious holidays for any other world religion other than Christianity. It’s as though the whole world has to give reverence to the Christian mythology over other mythologies. Yes..its all mythology ok? Lets not Bullshit each other…Mmmmmkk? Mr Ribeiro, please write an editorial asking for your fellow Christians in other parts of the world to respect Hindus and Muslims and get them a Holiday too for their important religious Holiday?
On the Attacks on Christian schools and Churches, I have written in my other blog entries, Mr Ribeiro may want to talk to the Sikhs, Jains, Zoroastrians and Parsis as to, what they are doing right that they are not attacked. Maybe the recent obnoxious proselytization and hate literature on Hindu deities may be be impetus for these attacks? Please see my editorial on “Religious Iconoclasm”
Christians have consistently punched above their weight — not as much as the tiny Parsi community, but just as noticeably. Education, in particular, has been their forte.
All True. Many Hindus have benefited from this and we Hindus ought to be grateful to the Christian community for this. Ingratitude is the essence of vileness. I would not have batted an eye if I read what you wrote, in the early 80s… It looks like you have been in a time warp. You obviously don’t seem clued into what has been happening the last two decades. Why have the same Christian Institutions turned their backs on Hindus and have started discriminating against Hindus. What changed all of a sudden? Vellore Medical college is now 90% Christian, St. Stevens and Madras Christian college are now 60-70% Christian only. It went from 30% in the 80s to this? Using Tax payer payer money and public land to discriminate Hindus? With these “religious” institutions using almost 90% funding from the public its not all that charitable really. In fact, this is such a hostile posture. More importantly, what kind of society are these Christians going to live in post graduation? In the midst of Hindus or in some exclusive Christian Enclaves in Kerala and other places in an incestuous social setup without the “corruption” and “pollution” of Hindus? Another Caste system where Christians maintain social endogamy not unlike what the Brahmins once did…Why Mr Ribeiro? We had people from different faiths including Hindus going to these schools developing deep long term bonds and friendship that have lasted decades.. Not by converting one another..but by respecting one another’s faith or at least to pretend to tolerate them. What dark forces are at play to sabotage that? I have explained it here in detail “The Slow cooking of Hindus in India”.
It is tragic that these extremists have been emboldened beyond permissible limits by an atmosphere of hate and distrust.
On that we can agree Mr Ribeiro. But which hate Group is were we differ! The Neo convert evangelical hate groups or the Hindus who are reacting to the attitudes of the evangelical hate groups? The way you feel about the RSS and Sang parivar is how I feel about Christian Evangelicals Mr. Ribeiro. They are like the Multi National Corporations from abroad stealing from the real minorities in India. It’s an unethical and fraudulent enterprise. There are two sets of Christians in India. What you talked about are the traditional Desi Christians who are endeared to me all my life.. They are no different than Hindus or Sikhs of India. But I am talking about the neo Christian evangelicals who are paid coolies of the MNC from abroad who you seem to have either ignored or clueless about. IF you feel these Christian Evangelicals are rights of Christians to run around doing their thing, I feel the RSS and Sang parivar doing Ghar Wapsi is the proper response! In fact I am disappointed that it is only at a token stage at this point. It needs to grow logarithmically to stop the onslaught from Christian evangelicals operating in India just to maintain par. There is even a book titled “Post Hindu India” with an ambitious plan of how India would look, after Hindus are converted to Christianity. This book is authored by an evangelical professor at Osmania university. This is disturbing beyond words. In this sort of thing there aren’t going to be any winners.. This is a tragedy in the making.
What should I do? What can I do to restore my confidence?
You can do something about this heartburn Mr Ribeiro. Preach the Indian Dharmic value of “Eishwar, Allah, Jesus” are all Gods to be respected. God is one, we call him by many names! This is Bharat’s secular pluralistic creed! The Indian social contract between one Indian to another. Time to evangelize that creed to India’s Christians once again! Indian Christians used to live by this Creed but many seem to have lost it during the last two decades. Discourage the “Onward Christian soldier” posture of the crusades. That is the heart of the problem Mr. Ribeiro. That should restore not just your confidence, it would restore mine too! And more importantly neither of us would feel like strangers in our own country!
AND at the end of the day, if you must know, THIS IS HOW I REALLY FEEL ABOUT THIS WHOLE SHITTY THING!
Indians had a social contract with one another.. God is one..We call him “Jesus, Allah and Ram”. many christians have violated this social contract! I have nothing but contempt for these contract breakers.
PS: Its unlikely the anti Hindu “Sick-ular” English media would have an editorial with rebuttals such as this. The political left in India is the most undemocratic and anti Free speech monopolist in the world. Instead they rather the Christians and Muslims in India wallow in their own persecution complex than bring some balance to these issues. During the Supreme court judgement on Ayodhia was announced, the Indian Muslims wanted to settle the issue with Hindus…but the political left would not allow that to happen either. For them a maximalist position of humiliating the Hindus while stating the evilness of Hindus is their only option. Their very existence depends on the enmity of Indian Hindus with the Indian Christians and Indian Muslims.
CHRISTIANS ARE NOT UNDER ATTACK IN INDIA – Maria Wirth
There is probably no other country where members of other religions were as safe as in India. Hindus always gave shelter to those who were persecuted in their homelands. Jews gratefully acknowledged that India is the one country where they were never persecuted. Syrian Christians under their leader Thomas of Cana (Thomas the Apostle did not come to India) were given refuge in the 4th century. Parsis came in the 10th century to escape the Muslim invaders in Persia. And in 1959, some 100,000 Tibetan Buddhist refugees found shelter in India – only 12 years after the British had left the country, divided and poverty-stricken.
In contrast, the rich USA with an area three times the size and only a quarter of India’s population allowed only in 1991 one thousand Tibetan families to enter.
Indians never hesitated to accept those who were in trouble and who wanted to preserve their faith because they did not distinguish between human beings on religious lines. Their attitude was that all belong to one big human family and all have the same divine essence in them. For them “religion” was not an identity but a natural, ideal way of life.
So what happened that nowadays there is a lot of talk that Christians are under attack in India? Have Hindus become intolerant?
Another Rebuttal: Hindus don’t always have equality with minorities
The Nehruvian worldview denies individual identity and arbitrarily discriminates between Indian citizens
The belief in, participation in, or sanction of destroying religious icons and other symbols or monuments, usually with religious or political motives.)