Have you watched the movie , “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” or the movie “Gunga Din” (In 19th century India, three British soldiers and a native water bearer must stop a secret mass revival of the murderous Thuggee cult before it can rampage across the land.
Those stories are based on the alleged history of the Hindu goddess Kali worshiping “Thugee cult” of Bengal. The English word “Thug” was derived from this. alleged “history”. You can google for this and get plenty of stories, almost always written by non Indians and non Hindus in particular. To summarize, supposedly there was a roving band of bandits who went about murdering, and committing the most heinous crimes of slitting the throats of passerby and tourists and robbing them. They were all allegedly dedicated to the Hindu Goddess Kali who loved blood and human sacrifice. The embellishment of this legend took a shape of its own during the Victorian England and it has kind of carried forward today by some idiots. There are “documented” cases of these stories by English soldiers and officers.
It went something like this.
For the members of Thuggee, murder was both a way of life and a religious duty. They believed their killings were a means of worshiping the Hindu goddess Kali, who was honored at each stage of the murder by a vast and complex system of rituals and superstitions. Thugs were guided to their victims by omens observed in nature, and once the deed was done, the graves and bodies were prepared according to strict ceremonies. A sacrificial rite would be conducted after the burial involving the consecration of sugar and of the sacred pickax, the tool the brotherhood believed was given to them by Kali to dig the graves of their prey. Thugs were certainly not above robbing their victims, but traditionally a portion of the spoils would be set aside for the goddess.
Is there any truth to this “Thugee” culture of India? How much of this really happened and how much of this is made up? And what was the motive for the English to make up such a bizarre story?
No one can prove that there were no gangs that roamed the streets to rob people.. India is a large country and I am sure like anywhere else there were robbers. IT would be impossible to prove there were no robbers. But this idea of linking this to the Hindu religion and the Hindu Goddess is what makes me sit up and take notice that its all made up and a lie. Especially the English had an ulterior motive to make this shit up
With these lines, the British officer, Captain James Paton, introduced the interviews he conducted with captured ‘Thugs’ at Lucknow in northern India in 1836, emphasising the spontaneity of the exchange and authenticity of the responses. The British believed the ‘Thugs’ to be a sect of prolific murderers who operated in secret along the highways of the subcontinent, guided by a deadly devotion to Hindu goddess-worship. Ostensibly, the purpose of Paton’s conversations was merely to demonstrate the ‘diabolical nature’ of the practice of ‘Thuggee’ and of the ‘Thugs’ themselves. Such revelations, however, implicitly provided justification for British rule in India, and the ability of colonial officers to penetrate the secrets of the Indian underworld was regarded as the finest validation of their complete knowledge of the land. From the 1830s onwards, colonial rule in India was in fact precipitated upon the gathering of information about its peoples and customs.3 For John Kaye, the in-house historian of the East India Company, the discovery and suppression of ‘Thuggee’ thus constituted indisputable proof that British rule in India had progressed from the non-intervention policies of a disinterested armchair administration: Approvers and the Colonial Ethnography of Crime in nineteenth-century India1 Kim A. Wagner, Queen Mary, University of London (email@example.com)
Prof. Kim A.Wagner in his book “Thuggee, Banditry and the British in Early Nineteenth-Century India” punches the holes to a large extend to this myth of the Thugee.
One of the main witness to this alleged “Thuggee cult” is a Muslim man by the name Ameer Ali who “confesses” to the British officers. The Idea of Muslims worshiping the Hindu Goddess Kali is as real as a $3 bill. It may have gotten traction during the British Raj along with the stories of one Mrs. Mortimer who made up such stories to scare British children of the 18th century even though Mrs Mortimer never visited India.
Wagner continues.. “The tale of crime which forms the subject of the following pages is alas! almost all true; what there is of fiction has been supplied only to connect the events, and make the adventures of Ameer Ali as interesting as the nature of his horrible profession would permit me. I became acquainted with this person in 1832. He was one of the approvers or informers who were sent to the Nizam’s territories from Saugor, and whose appalling disclosures caused an excitement in the country which can never be forgotten.13 The historical Ameer Alee had actually been captured and taken on as an approver by the famous officer, William Henry Sleeman, who was in charge of the operations at Sagar that had been established in 1829.14 In the absence of circumstantial evidence, the colonial authorities relied extensively on captured ‘Thugs’ who were willing to provide information and testify against their accomplices in return for a pardon. In order to be granted a pardon and accepted as a ‘king’s evidence’ according to Regulation VI of 1796, the approver had first to make a full confession, which implicated himself in the crimes of which he had been accused.15 In subsequent depositions, the approvers would then denounce accomplices and later identify those individuals who were put on trial.16 Special legislation had been introduced to put an end to what was perceived as an unprecedented threat to colonial authority, and several thousand suspects were tried as ‘Thugs’ and either hanged or imprisoned on the basis of approver testimonies.17 The information derived from the approvers thus constituted the very backbone of colonial knowledge of ‘Thuggee’. – Prof., Kim Wanger
In the movie “Gunga Din”, most astute observers would notice the patriotic speech of the main villain before he jumps into a pit of snakes and “dies for HIS country”. During the British Raj there were many resisters who didn’t care for the white trash British rule and violently resisted, which of course pissed off the tyrants . And benefited them to tell such stories to rationalize, to their homies back home, about their rule in India.
Prof., Kim Wanger says the following
“British knowledge of the ‘Thugs’ was deeply entangled in the imperial project and characterised by the need to assert the authority and legitimise the expansion of the burgeoning colonial state of the East India Company. Invariably coloured by Orientalist tropes and stereotypes, the primary sources relating to ‘Thuggee’ are accordingly extremely dubious and the very existence of a social practice resembling that described by the British has been called into question by later historians. 6 Even when British officers like Paton recorded their conversations with ‘Thug’ informers, or approvers as they were called, the suspicion is still that the informants were merely responding to the questions and expectations of the colonial interlocutor. Rather than being untainted records of ‘truth’, these conversations elicited specific information that could easily be made to conform to the official narrative of ‘Thuggee’.7 An inquiry into the subject of ‘Thuggee’ is thus largely defined by the very procedures and institutions that produced such knowledge. Given the nature of the evidence, is it at all possible to examine the subject without, in one way or the other, simply reiterating the judgment of the colonial authorities?“
Of course the picture of Goddess Kali for an average christian westerner does not help matters and its fun to watch the usual Jesus freaks freaking out!
Kali’s third eye, the mark of the beast? Christian crazies go nuts! 🙂
In this day and age in this “Internet decade” this evangelical creature has the audacity or stupidity to mix the Hindu deities with the ISIS, you can see how the Hindu Goddess can be mixed up with the Islamists thugs during the Victorian times.
That evil christian evangelical has no problem with this..naturally.
Kālī (/ˈkɑːli/; Sanskrit: काली & Bengali: কালী; IPA: [kɑːliː]), also known as Kālikā (Sanskrit: कालिका), is the Hindu goddessassociated with empowerment, or shakti. She is the fierce aspect of the goddess Durga. The name of Kali means black, time, death, lord of death; she is therefore called the Goddess of Time, Change, Power, and Destruction. Her earliest appearance is that of a destroyer principally of evil forces
- Blood Libel. Not that there aren’t any precedent for this. In Christian Europe, false stories were planted about Jews.. How Jews have to kill little christian boys and use their blood to make Matzah balls for Jewish Passover.
In choosing the image of Shiva Nataraja, the Indian government acknowledged the profound significance of the metaphor of Shiva’s dance for the cosmic dance of subatomic particles, which is observed and analyzed by CERN’s physicists. The parallel between Shiva’s dance and the dance of subatomic particles was first discussed by Fritjof Capra in an article titled “The Dance of Shiva: The Hindu View of Matter in the Light of Modern Physics,” published in Main Currents in Modern Thought in 1972. Shiva’s cosmic dance then became a central metaphor in Capra’s international bestseller The Tao of Physics, first published in 1975 and still in print in over 40 editions around the world.
Then I learn of this.
On June 18, 2004, an unusual new landmark was unveiled at CERN, the European Center for Research in Particle Physics in Geneva — a 2m tall statue of the Indian deity Shiva Nataraja, the Lord of Dance. The statue, symbolizing Shiva’s cosmic dance of creation and destruction, was given to CERN by the Indian government to celebrate the research center’s long association with India.
But I take schadenfreude delight in the fact that it annoys the hell out of the Jesus freak nut jobs! Ha Ha!
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